welcome back to "the weekend." the donald trump 2016 election defense trial will resume the new is on the stand. we don't know who is next but many of the names we have yet

to hear are central players in this case. talking stormy daniels, karen mcdougal and michael cohen. karen mcdougal who had some instagram posts last night. the witness list has been kept under wraps because prosecutors fear donald trump might attack the witnesses and and pick their testimony. donald trump has been held in contempt for violating his gag order. and the judge has four other potential violations to rule on. joining to discuss it all is our msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor kristi greenberg and is also the former deputy cheap at the southern district of new york but also with us is the former january 6 investigator marcus childress. greetings everyone. >> how to be look at it this week? we have three potential witnesses that could kick off the conversation this week. how are you assessing this?

and those the order really matter at this point? i assume michael cohen will be the cherry on top. i think karen mcdougal and certainly stormy could land the plane as they say at the tail end of all of this. how do you see this week starting and potentially ending? >> i think the way they order the witnesses so far has been really masterful. we had davidpecker put donald trump right at center of it talking about his conversations with donald trump and about the fact that he did not want these stories with these women and these hush money payments. he wanted to make sure the payments were done so the women were not talking. then you got to keep davidson talking about the mechanics of how that worked and then making clear that this was all for the campaign. then you had hope hicks who again corroborated and some bombshell testimony yesterday.

the same point that davidpecker made that after the election, donald trump was thanking davidpecker for making sure the damaging stories did not hit the process and also that hope hicks said he made the same point to her that this would have been really damaging had it come out sooner during the campaign. so where do we go looking forward? we are setting the stage for michael cohen to make that point. he has corroborated on the point so well that donald trump was at the center of it and this mattered for the trump campaign. and michael cohen makes those points. even though the defense will attack his credibility, the foundation has been laid. we have heard this from multiple witnesses. witnesses who were favorable to donald trump. davidpecker said very favorable things about donald trump and so did hope hicks. they were from the witnesses to him. so when michael cohen comes on and they say that he has an ax to grind, it will fall flat with the jury.

>> so there is a duality to what is happening here. the criminal trial is proceeding and then the conversation being had about the gag order. we know donald trump has paid a $9000 fine and there will be a hearing on four other potential violations of the gag order. at the same time, you have former president trump on truth settled just on saturday with this. all the so-called evidence by the cricket joe biden fascist prosecutors has nothing to do with the phony crime case against me. virtually, every great legal scholars says the crooked new york city d.a. alvin bragg was allowing violent crime to run rampant in the sidewalks of new york and has no case against me. and all caps, election interference. walking right up to the line and doing whatever his best is not to cross it. >> it just sows fear by even going on truth social and putting these statements out. maybe i'm not a legal scholar and maybe kristi is not as well but i feel like the prosecution has been putting on a masterful

case as well. if we take a step back, it is important for the prosecution to show there was concern see to influence election and there was a cover. right now we are on the conspiracy side. that was supposed to be the harder part of the trial as kristi said. it has been a masterful performance. i want to point out one piece of evidence that keep davidson and davidpecker pointed out that on both sides of the agreement, the catch and kill scheme was to help the trump campaign before the election. now when michael cohen says the same thing, you have three people who are all part of the agreement all saying the same thing. so it is really up to the prosecution to come in and show the cover up phase which honestly is the easier part of the case to show the fraudulent business records. i'm sure that will be leading into the closing arguments with whole conspiracy and the cover- up and show one cohesive story. >> was put up on the screen what marcus referenced.

family versus campaign concerns. the prosecution asks, did he ever say anything to you that made you think the concern was about these stories getting out, for his family rather than his campaign? and davidpecker said, i thought it was for the campaign. all we have are the transcripts. i was gone yesterday. i know you discussed hope hicks and all the things. hope hicks will be back tomorrow on the stand at 9:30. she is the first witness because she will be cross- examined. >> i think she is done. >> is she done? >> no. it says that she takes the witness stand and the presuming will be monday morning at 9:30 a.m. >> she was cross-examined and the cross examination was completed and there was no redirect from the prosecution so i think we have concluded

with hope hicks. >> this is why people in the courtroom make the difference. >> you cannot take a single day off. always triple check the papers. we don't know who will come up next. it was a surprise for the reasons we noted. concerns about donald trump. what do we think is happening next year? i was struck by everyone saying, hope hicks was part of this. she was complicit in. made her work for donald trump. she knew who the people were and it is fortunate that she had to pull the rug out. that had nothing to do with michael cohen sitting in jail and how is this story unfolding as someone in the room? >> i think we will hear from michael cohen.

i don't think they will save him for last. i would expect as marcus mentioned, to get into the falsification of business records. some people from the trump organization can speak to that. i think you will put michael cohen in the middle and i expect the cross-examination is really going to hammer him on the credibility. you look at how he has already been corroborated. we have heard so much about michael cohen already from these of the witnesses. you heard from hope hicks that it didn't make any sense to her one donald trump lied to hope hicks and said donald trump had no knowledge of the payments and michael cohen did this out of the goodness of his heart. because she did not find a particularly charitable person. stepping back as a lawyer i can say, it is not charitable riding out checks for $130,000. lawyers like to get paid. they are not the ones doing the payments.

is so michael cohen has already seen davidpecker an a mi get stepped because donald trump did not pay for karen mcdougal on the doorman stories. so you think michael cohen is in talking to donald trump and making sure he is going to get paid. there has been so much testimony about the fact that everything michael cohen did had to have authorization. he was talking about the boss. keep davidson said at any moment, he will let you know. he is working for donald trump. this idea on hope hicks cross- examination that michael cohen went rogue sometimes can give me a break. these are new yorkers with common sense. they would know he is laying out the money with the expectation to be paid and it is all for the benefit of donald trump. nobody is taking out a home equity line of credit on are house. it's not like he just had the money or he could just write out the check easily. he took out a home equity line

of credit on his house to help donald trump with the expectation that he would be paid for it. and with the knowledge of donald trump. there has also been so much testimony about how donald trump cared so much about karen mcdougal. the stormy daniels payment happens after the excess hollywood tape where we learned that this was a crisis in the campaign. so you would have to have the jury believed that donald trump had no knowledge about what was happening with the stormy daniels payoff and all of a sudden, he was just hands off and that is not what has been presented to the jury. i think michael cohen would make that clear. as he said during his plea, it is at the direction of and in coordination with donald trump. >> setting up the conspiracy part of this is the, what have we done moment that was evidenced in text messages from keep davidson to the national enquirer editor, dylan howard in which it was noted. what have we done?

he said in a text on election night to the national enquirer executive that helped him mediate the deal. only god said the national enquirer's editor-in-chief at the time. he decided it was humor about their understanding on the activities may have in some way assisted the presidential campaign of donald trump. that is one of those that just puts it all in play. only god. we actually did this. that has allowed president trump to become president trump because he did the catch and kill so successfully and all the webs that were woven together actually help. >> i think it is important that we show that text message. we talk a lot about testimony. but in trial, testimony is adding color to the documents, especially in a white-collar

case. this shows exactly what they were thinking at the time before the election of 2016. which was that this was about the election. this catch and kill schemas about the election. and it is important from proving this up from a misdemeanor to felony site. a lot of people questioned about whether this was really an election interference case. >> they were questioning without seeing evidence. out there and haven't seen anything. claiming the case will be a certain way. >> we have heard election interference from every single witness from all the text messages. the phone calls from donald trump to michael cohen about couple let's keep the story from coming out before the election. let's push it out until after november. it is all about the election. and so i think the prosecution is in a good spot to argue that this was to conceal election interference and they are sitting pretty heading into the fraudulent business records side of the trial.

>> we are not done with this conversation. when we come back in the moment, we will keep talking about it. before break, let's go back to the breaking news at the university of southern california where pro- palestinian protesters set up an encampment after it had been cleared last week. it is daybreak in los angeles and the university park campus has been closed as a result of significant activity at the center of campus. that is according to the university public safety department. our camera crew set at an alumni park where most of the encampment has been set up. it has been largely cleared after warnings. these are images from the last hour taking by our affiliate. no rest have been reported thus far. chopper over the campus said officers were dismantling tents in the park. we will continue to monitor the formation and bring you the latest throughout the morning. we will be right back. d the t of episodic migraine in adults.

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let's get to the top story of the morning. donald trump began a donor been in florida last night with the recording of the national anthem performed by jailed january 6th defendants. with members of the national republican committee and potential vp picks in the audience. how wacky is that! trump called jack smith an evil thug and deranged and said that when he got indicted, he made the decision that the gloves have to come off.

kristi greenberg and marcus childress are back with us. we have the donald trump smack down going on, folks. >> how is he able to do this and it is okay? how? how can he continue to say and do these things and there are no consequences? as michael said yesterday, if he was anyone else, if donald trump was someone else, he would be under the jail. >> the fact that he is mad that he is being held accountable and is threatening to attack people just for trying to hold the institutions and hold him accountable. this is the same individual that tried to overturn a lawful election and said he wishes he could be dictator for a day and is continuing this theme of claiming the world is unfair against him and the special counsel is a fog. he is highlighting what he will do witches go after every person who was trying to hold

him accountable including me and my former january 6 colleagues. this is something dangerous because he will do it. he is saying it and he will do it. he needs to be held accountable like the manhattan d.a. is trying to do on the special counsel is trying to do. he has broken the law consistently throughout his time. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say 47-48% of american people want this. they seem to be okay with this narrative. despite what we see unfolding in the courts and despite what we see unfolding in the campaign with the language about dictatorships and wanting to have exact retribution on the system that is, as marcus pointed out, holding him accountable, what do we take from this? how do we move through this

moment when almost half of our american citizens, neighbors, friends, those we work with say, this is all good and we are fine with this? >> it is an important point. it is one reason why it would be wonderful if there were televisions in the courtroom or cameras that you could see what was transpiring and the american people could know that one donald trump goes outside the courtroom and says he is not allowed to testify under the gag order and then you have the judge saying in plain terms, i think there is a misunderstanding which of course he didn't misunderstand. he knew what he was saying was a lie but the judge tactfully making clear that yes you can text if i. but those exchanges should be televised so the american public could see the lies this man is telling. going back to the january 6 comments, when he is saying that he will pardon those that participated january 6th, it is

an invitation for them to do this again in november. you look at the supreme court dealing with many of these january 6 cases and there has been all kinds of delay there. can you imagine if that mob had gone to the supreme court with guns, baseball bats and pitchforks? and decide if there was an obstruction of a official proceeding would be quick. it seems like a simple question. but it takes a long time for the courts to answer these simple questions and hold donald trump accountable. when there is this absence of accountability, it sends a message somehow implicitly that what he is doing is okay and acceptable and it isn't. so the courts need to send the message to donald trump that he could be held accountable and therefore, if they do that, hopefully the people would come around and see that this is a convicted felon. this is someone who is not just running his mouth but has been

held accountable and is not above the law. that has not happened yet. in the absence of the courts doing that, he will continue to run his mouth and people will believe him when he asked with no consequences. >> people might be tired of hearing this at this point from the five of us perhaps and they will hear it from a reagan appointed judge who warns the gop picked was preposterous claims about january 6 "the court is accustomed to defendants refusing to accept that they did anything wrong. in my 37 years on the bench, i cannot recall a time when such meritless justifications of criminal activity have gone mainstream. the court feels such destructive misguided rhetoric could bring further danger to the country." ." >> what you here from the judge is just frustration. he is overseeing hundreds of these cases. his courthouse and the district court, he is overseeing thousands of these cases. you have the judge who has not able to move or act on election interference since december as

immunity claims have moved up to the appeals court. you have the judge she was issuing sentences and trying to oversee trials without knowing the definition or the rules around an obstruction of an official proceeding. and it is frustrating. they need swift justice the people know that if you violate the law, you are held accountable. the courts are hamstrung because they don't know what the law is here. and the judge has been speaking i believe on behalf of the colleagues on the court who are frustrated with trying to hold individuals accountable and making sure history remembers these gruesome violations of the law for what they are but they are not able to do so because of the supreme court not making a ruling on the official proceeding or immunity . so you sense the frustration coming from the court. depending on supreme court rules, you might have to re- sentence these individuals. let's make it clear that the

doj only charges individuals when there is specific intent to obstruct proceedings like text messages of we are going to stop the vote or we can allow mike pence to certify the vote. this is the case. not just individuals that tailgated in but individuals that knew exactly what they were doing when they went to the capital that day. i think the court is trying to raise awareness so folks like ghosts or others around the country can ring the alarm bells of what is going on. >> marcus childress and kristi greenberg, thank you so much for being with us. still ahead, who is in charge? democrats might be stirring the ship on capitol hill even the republicans have the majority barely. this is "the weekend." customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) now we're even smarter and ready for what's next. (vo) achieve enterprise intelligence.

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we were sitting here talking about the supreme court and i was telling michael, i don't know if you saw the bed

but we talked about it last weekend that the supreme court, the questions that the justices were asking asking in these oral arguments around immunity, it was so striking to me. said basically saying, if a former president is able to be charged -- they were saying all kinds of things that i think people should be outraged about. but it is just flying under the radar. >> that is the political question. as a judge, you don't give a about your candidate's campaign to schedule. that is irrelevant to the case and controversy in front of you. it is whether the individual has absolute immunity and a rational reading of the constitution says no. but they are trying in my estimation to rationalize this thing as marcus said. they will reduce this thing down and send it back to the

lawyer and lawyer a lower court and what does that do? extends the timeline so there is no accountability. it throws a lot of things into question and cause for concern and as we were talking, they will drop a bunch of rulings on abortion and affirmative action . >> in june. >> they will wait until the last minute. >> it is going to be a hot summer. >> we were talking about the courtroom and the court of public opinion. that is why it is alarming to me that you have that 70% of republicans saying they agree with trump and that he should have absolute immunity. let's say donald trump loses this upcoming election. there are a lot of people who believe that a president, regardless of who it is should have immunity. >> they are both correct.

>> trust me. the same airheads running around when you are talking about donald trump should have absolute immunity and let's make him a king know well that if joe biden wakes up tomorrow morning and decides to hate like trump and starts to make the arguments trump is making, they will lose their minds. they would freak out and they would be screaming about the constitution and the rule of law and we don't need a cane. we know how this cuts. >> to your point, joe biden would do anywhere near the things donald trump is claiming to do but he has done things like try to give student debt relief and the supreme court stepped in and said no and they stepped in because republican attorneys general from across the country brought lawsuit all the way to the supreme court so

they could weigh in and say he cannot do that under the constitution. we have billed that everyone from the banks to the auto industry to the airlines. for some reason, young people in debt are a bridge too far. those are the kinds of things that when some republican friends say, i cannot vote for joe biden because of his policies, joe biden's policies -- is bad for america. they are talking about student debt reform. that is why it is insane, the comparisons and people need to pay attention. >> we can have a policy debate on student debt reform. the republicans are not even offering a policy alternative to dealing with the student debt crisis in the country and what that debt does to their income and their mobility and their opportunity to access the american dream. i could make the argument as a conservative. i don't know where the parties are. i know where they are? talking about a dictator and

why they are moaning and groaning about the guy solving a problem. and that is what this boils down to. the problem we are dealing with is that in the mix is the supreme court that will change the trajectory of how they election unfolds in november. >> the supreme court in the house of representatives that any president will need in order to get things done which brings us to the our next guest. previewing a potentially perilous week. this is for house speaker mike johnson. you are watching "the weekend." only pay for what you need. jingle: ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ baby: ♪ liberty. ♪ sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand. and wakes up feeling like himself. get the rest to be your best with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪

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is, what will that cost mike johnson we have democratic congressman pat ryan of new york. >> i think we should start this by playing the sound of the house democratic leader hakeem jeffries on this very issue. this is what he said about blocking marjorie taylor green's motion to vacate, something that is top of mind coming into this. >> we made clear that this is a vote of conscience. it is time to end this chapter of pro hooton obstruction among the extreme maga republican weighing on the other side of the aisle and we are prepared to do just that. >> congressman, here's the question and i think it was summed up by punch bowl news. what do you get out of this? what are democrats looking to get out of this effort to back

the speaker against his own insurgent republican caucus? >> with all due respect to my leadership, i don't quite share the view. let me tell you why. i came here to actually deliver for my constituents. my constituents want me to stand up for reproductive freedom and pass protecting the reproductive freedom act. mike johnson literally authored the bill to ban abortion and ivf. we are trying to get a discharge petition for an assault weapons ban and universal background checks. mike johnson won't even bring that to the floor. we are trying to get an affordable connectivity problem fixed so millions of americans can have internet. mike johnson will bring that to the floor. i don't know how i can in conscience vote for him as speaker when he will hurt my constituents and not to mention his history with january 6th.

>> to be clear, you are saying that if this motion to vacate comes to the floor, at this point in time, you would not vote to support my johnson? >> yes. i think he gets a micro amount of credit for showing a little bit of back bone months late on ukraine. we should have done that months ago. that almost caused a fundamental democratic ally. again, i come back to my constituents and what they sent me here to do. protect rights and freedoms and help with economic relief. we are doing none of that. they are doing stunts and messaging bills when everything is happening around the world and the country. i don't know why we would continue to enable somebody like that who essentially represents the most extreme wing of today's republican party. >> i appreciate the congressman's position. if i'm a democrat in the house, what is the upside for me? if they want to devour their own, which republicans are good

at doing, choke on the meal, baby. choke on the meal. why should the democrats expend their political capital in a hotly contested presidential cycle where the house and the senator on the line and the prospect of alienating their base constituents, the people they represent, to save who and for what? i don't get it. but i'm not in the house. >> i think we often get stuck in the process and the motions and that is important. this is the people's house. we have to center back on the messages folks have sent election after election the last few years. they don't want to go further to the right. they want us to stand up and protect the rights and deliver relief and johnson has failed to do that over and over. >> congressman, what you are saying to us was a code on some reporting with punch bowl news. this is the article backing

johnson. not an easy pill to swallow for house democrats. and especially when they are getting nothing new in return. is there anything that johnson could bring to the table that would change your thinking? >> here is a perfect example. i talked about the affordable connectivity program. something we are not talking enough about. is for internet to tens of millions of americans for the last few years. we are trying to get a vote to the floor on this to help the american people and he won't even do it. we spent the last week on these bogus messaging bills that do nothing to move the country forward. in fact, they divide us. if he is willing to do things like bring legislation that has broad bipartisan support to the floor, that could make sense for our constituents. it's on about the inside baseball. it is centering back on folks. >> i know there is more we want to get to with you. before we move up this point, much has been made about the fact that house democrats have

been uniquely united behind the house democratic leadership. things would happen and folks would say, i have my thoughts but i want to see what my leader would do, speaking of leader hakeem jeffries. you are the first person i heard very clearly delineate since the house leaders said the house leadership would support speaker johnson. you were one of the first to clearly did note that you are not in support of that. but others prior to hakeem jeffries coming out and saying what he said have echoed how you feel. what is the conversation happening with house democrats? i know you are all coming back to work this week. is this a case of leadership saying, we have to have to do this and we can have the chaos and the rank-and-file members are like, we have done enough? >> let's be clear. leader hakeem jeffries is a great leader. he has been the speaker

effectively of the house. we have prevented two shutdowns. we passed the budget. we were the deciding majority to support allies in israel, ukraine and taiwan. we have stuck together and we are continuing to stick together picky i continue to think is a great leader. everybody ultimately has to vote what they think is right for their constituents and further conscience. and the other thing was johnson, i have to be clear, this guy was the legal architect of january sixth. i lost good friends, fellow soldiers serving in combat to defend our democracy. how can we stomach enabling, in my view, somebody who took traders to action in and around that day? >> that is one of the really compelling aspects of the narratives that come out of the upcoming election.

despite everything we here on the economy and even with respect to the storylines on abortion, that at the heart of all of it, and i would love to get your assessment on this, congressman, is this idea of what the country stands for and what we have grown up -- despite the rough-and-tumble of the 60s and the problems that were born out of jim crow and the women's suffrage. we have had our issues. but no american took it upon themselves to go storm the capital, to overturn the transition of power. how do you assess this moment for the country from the unique perspective you have inside the chamber knowing what was going on outside the chamber doors and as you try to meet the needs of your people? >> that is why i agree with you. we have to zoom out and recognize that each of these

votes to me is a pretty foundational moral vote when you are talking about who is third in line to the president's of the united states of america and what direction do we want to take the country. it is concerning who could be next on their side and i know that folks are readily concerned about that. for me, each opportunity we have to pump the brakes on going to the far right or going the direction trump clearly wants to take after hijacking the republican party, we have to pump the brakes in my view. that is broadly popular with my constituents and the american people. when we get out of touch are out of whack with them on any policy, that is when i think we get into trouble. we are hanging on by our fingernails. we have to dig in. >> it reminds me of that poster of a kitten on a branch that was in all of our 1st grade classrooms. congressman pat ryan, thank you so much for your time. >> next, a very special gastric the man, the myth, the

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about small acts of courage and legacy of endurance and the fight for democracy. it highlights his family story moving from south africa to kenya to canada. including his efforts in canadian politics shaping the views on how he views politics. absent legal barriers, the real force keeping some out of office with simple inertia. the people that ran for office are the ones that always run for office and identity is a huge piece of that. joining us now is the host of ali welshi, the great ali welshi himself. thank you for coming to work 15 minutes early. >> the things i will do. this is amazing. you have been on the air for 18 months. and said, let me see if i can write the book. i'm happy to be with you. >> it is a treat to have you. as a politician, there was a

passage in your book that stands out and strikes a chord. i will quote from it. to this day, when i hear people run down politics and politicians, i recoil. cynicism about politics is actually a luxury of those who have never had to experience life without it and those people, if they ever lost their ability to participate in the system, they would never take it for granted again. there is so much power in truth and that is a realization. how was that part of your journey? coming to understand how all of this is connected in the absence of the things that matter? >> my great grandparents, my grandparents, my parents and my sister were all born in places where they could not vote by

virtue of the color of their skin. they grew up with some of the basic indignities you get with races societies and more importantly, the sophisticated ones you get when you are outside the political system. said they were the basic silly things that happened. my sister went to the zoo and wanted to take a pony ride but that was just for white students. if you had a sore tooth on a wednesday, that was too bad because the dentist was only available to nonwhite people on a monday. there is the idea that you are not involved in politics. so when family got to canada 54 years ago, 53 years ago, they jumped in the politics. they went to gatherings of all the political parties. they went into it. finally, my father ran for office when i was 11 years old. that was a passage you are reading from. i was devastated. election night, he lost. and i said, why did we

win? and my father said, we were never going to win but we got to run and participate an election is over and everybody goes back to normal and nobody goes to jail. that idea that if you are in a democracy, you have an obligation to participate in the politics of that democracy where you cannot complain the democracy is not fair to you. citizenship is an obligation as much as it is a series of rights. >> one of the striking stories you tell in the book is about the night barack obama wins the presidency and you are working at cnn at the time and everyone is deeply emotional because they realize they are witnessing history and it feels as though something has shifted. you realize covering the george floyd protests, how wrong that was. what is it that has crystallized for you and that moment and in the days after. >> in that moment, the night i was covering what was a peaceful protest and then the police and the national guard, state police and minneapolis police come in an open fire with rubber teargas and

bullets. i realized for all these years, people said, what a great job you have pick you are at the front row things unfolding pick and i realized in this long unbroken chain that we are not in the front row. we are in the arena. journalists and every other american have to fight for democracy is never over. you can never give that up. i grew up in a democracy. i grew up lazy. i was entitled in the thinking that this is just how it is. on that day, i realize that is not how it is. if you don't fight to preserve those elements of democracy and produce a patient on an basis as a citizen and in our case, as a journalist, you can lose it and that is a situation we are in now. it is an important message for people. that you can make little changes. but it is on you to make them. >> you can make changes but it is on you. so important right now. we hear a lot about democracy and that is on the ballot and then people often say, look at

the economy and look what is happening here. i don't think the two things are in different lanes. i think they are intertwined and it's the same part of one story. >> that is exactly right. i would love to be in a society where we are having big discussions about where interest rates should be and minimum wage and unionization and universal healthcare. but we are not there right now. we are not in that world. and frankly, it is dangerous for all of us. it is dangerous for conservatives in the country who don't have a party that represents them in which people can attend candidate meeting like i used to as my father when he was running for office and look at these candidates and say, i like where that one stands or that one stands. we don't have that privilege now. they are stealing democracy from us. you have to cast your ballot for someone who believes in democracy. thankfully, there are many conservatives in the country who share that view, that they would like to bring the

democracy back from the brink. for the moment, where we stand now, is that the choices binary for americans. choose democracy in november. whatever it is you like or don't like about your candidates and then we move forward and we discussed how we fix the economy and make it work for everybody. not just for some. and make politics more fair. right now, we are front-line soldiers in the battle for democracy and that is what i want people to take away from this. >> don't you just love ali welshi! we just love him. small acts of courage and legacy of endurance and the fight for democracy is out. tuesday, i had my book and ali welshi will be signing it. we love you and appreciate you. thank you and we will see you again in a few minutes. please don't go anywhere. you are watching "the weekend ." network (ella) we now get more control of production,

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before we go, there's a special interview happening on msnbc tomorrow. joy reid sits down with wnba star brittney griner for her first cable interview since her arrest and imprisonment in russia. she will talk about her time spent in a russian penal comedy -- community and her ongoing efforts advocating for other prisoners around the world. that is on the reidout, tomorrow. we will see you next weekend. in the meantime,